Good to meet you Ken, a gent with much knowledge on allthings two wheeled, well worth a listening to, on a lowered DRZ.Andy made up the trio.A four hour ride with a stop at Smokey's, the team thought probably about intermediate.Only dramas were a couple of slipetts by me and my trusty TTR getting a cough.Plenty of mud and standing water, not helped by 4x4s turning some of the interesting single track into quagmire.Still, can't complain can we! Like to make some points about encouraging leading.Leading adds another pressure to a maybe not so experienced rider, pseudo enduro riders up their jacksee doesn't help, or a large group, you need a bit of time and space to get used to a new role.How about some kind of training ride environment with a few helpful riders for new leaders to feel their feet? rather than in at the deep end.Most organisations do this,l would be happy to help.